Some Beatles fans still blame Yoko Ono for breaking up the group, saying she came between John Lennon and the rest of the lads.
But Paul McCartney tells interviewer David Frost in a program set to air in November that it didn't happen that way at all, reports The Guardian.
"She certainly didn't break the group up, the group was breaking up," McCartney tells Frost in an interview coinciding with the Beatles' 50th anniversary this year.
"I don't think you can blame her for anything," McCartney says in the interview for Frost's program on the Al Jazeera English TV channel, which is slated to air Nov. 9.
"When Yoko came along, part of her attraction was her avant-garde side, her view of things, so she showed him another way to be, which was very attractive to him," McCartney tells Frost. "So it was time for John to leave, he was definitely going to leave" with or without Ono.
He also thinks that if Lennon had not gone on to pursue projects with Ono, he might not have written songs such as Imagine. "I don't think he would have done that without Yoko," McCartney said.
Lennon often noted that each of the Beatles had quit the band before the group's formal dissolution in 1970, and also argued that anyone who blamed Ono for the band's breakup by extension should thank her for the subsequent solo music each group member created.
McCartney says in retrospect the timing of the end of the Beatles was good. They left "a neat body of work" so the split "wasn't that bad a thing".
Frost's hour-long chat is billed as an "in-depth interview," but he does allow McCartney to omit any chatting about his second marriage to Heather Mills, which ended in a nasty courtroom battle. He does, however, talk about his first marriage to Linda Eastman and her 1998 death from breast cancer. And he says that his role to his five children, Mary, Heather, Stella and James with Linda, and Beatrice, 8, with Mills, along with his eight grandchildren is the most important one of his life. "Being a father, grandfather, is my coolest thing."